"WE WILL GIVE YOU NEW PATIENTS, AND YOU MUST ACCEPT THEM AND THE FEES WE PAY YOU FOR THEM!"-THAT'S THE NEW PROPOSED HEALTH CARE PLAN

Socialism, rather Socialist Health care, the American version, is very interesting indeed.

Imagine that you own a little grocery store, and that the government mandates how much you will charge for your products and forces you to sell them to new customers that you do not want, such as having to accommodate them till midnight, instead of the 6 pm you want to go home at?

That's the plan for your health care.

The government wants to FORCE all doctors to accept all patients and to accept their mandated prices for the services that the doctors will provide.

So if a patient comes in for a blood test, he must get it and the doctor will be paid the mandated amount, say $15. That is not really what it costs to get this service, but that is all the government mandates it will pay.

So, the doctor will choose to say for instance that he allows two blood tests a day and that you need to get on the "list" for the test. So come back in 6 months, when there is an opening. Are you starting to understand the new plan?

This is the case with everything. Do you think that a surgeon wants to schedule $150 operations, and do 10 a day over 10-12 hours ? I do not think so.

This is no way to provide health care.

This similar program already operates in other Federal programs like Medicare. The payment rates are usually so low, that the doctors accepting it only do so because they get a regular reimbursement that is reasonable from private insurance clients, and simply can add several patients with Medicare to add to their client billings.

The government knows this, and thus many doctors, the really good popular doctors in specialty fields, do not accept any more patients, as they can not operate their practices profitably with government reimbursements only.

In the UK for instance, all the best doctors are private practices, and the government run medical services are importing doctors from India, Philippines and other countries. Their last names are un-pronounceable.

The diagnostic options such as MRI screenings, etc, will have to be rationed as well, since the operating costs are significant due to the initial investment. Nobody will invest millions into diagnostic equipment if they can't recover their money due to the small payments for service.

College majors that are now most popular include Political Science, since that is the only projected growth field for future careers.

Why would anyone want to go into medicine with all the anticipated deluge of low paying work?

As the health care debate heats up, the American Medical Association is letting Congress know that it will oppose creation of a government-sponsored insurance plan, which President Obama and many other Democrats see as an essential element of legislation to remake the health care system.

The opposition, which comes as Mr. Obama prepares to address the powerful doctors’ group on Monday in Chicago, could be a major hurdle for advocates of a public insurance plan. The A.M.A., with about 250,000 members, is America’s largest physician organization.

While committed to the goal of affordable health insurance for all, the association had said in a general statement of principles that health services should be “provided through private markets, as they are currently.” It is now reacting, for the first time, to specific legislative proposals being drafted by Congress.

In the presidential campaign last year and in a letter to Congress last week, Mr. Obama called for a new “public health insurance option,” which he said would compete with private insurers and keep them honest.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California said Wednesday that she supported that goal. “A bill will not come out of the House without a public option,” she said Wednesday on MSNBC.

But in comments submitted to the Senate Finance Committee, the American Medical Association said: “The A.M.A. does not believe that creating a public health insurance option for non-disabled individuals under age 65 is the best way to expand health insurance coverage and lower costs. The introduction of a new public plan threatens to restrict patient choice by driving out private insurers, which currently provide coverage for nearly 70 percent of Americans.”

If private insurers are pushed out of the market, the group said, “the corresponding surge in public plan participation would likely lead to an explosion of costs that would need to be absorbed by taxpayers.”

While not the political behemoth it once was, the association probably has more influence than any other group in the health care industry. Lawmakers seek its opinion and support whenever possible. It has repeatedly persuaded Congress to cancel or postpone cuts in Medicare payments to doctors, though it has not secured a “permanent fix.”

If the doctors are too aggressive in fighting the public plan, they risk alienating Democrats whose support they need for legislation to increase their Medicare fees.

The group has historically had a strong lobbying operation, supplemented by generous campaign donations. Since the 2000 election cycle, its political action committee has contributed $9.8 million to Congressional candidates, according to data from the Federal Election Commission and the Center for Responsive Politics. Republicans got more than Democrats in the four election cycles before 2008, when 56 percent went to Democrats.

Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, said that in his address to the group next week, Mr. Obama would “outline the case for health care reform and make clear why we can’t afford to wait another year, or another administration, to bring down costs that are crushing families, businesses and government.”

Mr. Gibbs did not say whether Mr. Obama would discuss a public insurance plan, the most contentious issue in the debate.

The A.M.A., an umbrella group for 180 medical societies, does not speak for all doctors. One group, Physicians for a National Health Program, supports a single-payer system of insurance, in which a single public agency would pay for health services, but most care would still be delivered by private doctors and hospitals. In recent years, some doctors have become so fed up with the administrative hassles of private insurance that they are looking for alternatives.

Until now, stakeholders in the health care industry have generally muted their criticism of Democratic proposals. But as details of the legislation have emerged, the criticism has become more pointed.

America’s Health Insurance Plans, a lobby for insurers, said Tuesday that the government plan proposed by some Senate Democrats could “dismantle employer-based coverage and significantly increase costs for those who remain in private coverage.”

Under a proposal favored by many Democrats, doctors who take Medicare patients would also have to participate in the new public plan. Democrats say that requirement is needed to make sure the public plan can go into business right away with a large network of doctors.

The medical association said it “cannot support any plan design that mandates physician participation.” For one thing, it said, “many physicians and providers may not have the capability to accept the influx of new patients that could result from such a mandate.”

“In addition,” the A.M.A. said, “federal programs traditionally have never required physician or other provider participation, but rather such participation has been on a voluntary basis.”

In an interview, Dr. Nancy H. Nielsen, president of the American Medical Association, said she was delighted by Mr. Obama’s plan to address the doctors.

“Health care reform is as important to us as it is to him,” Dr. Nielsen said. “We will be engaged in discussions in a constructive way. But we absolutely oppose government control of health care decisions or mandatory physician participation in any insurance plan.”

Mr. Obama’s trip recalls a speech to the A.M.A. in Chicago on June 13, 1993, by Hillary Rodham Clinton. She proposed “a new bargain” in which the White House would limit malpractice lawsuits and free doctors from onerous rules if doctors supported her effort to overhaul the health care system.

The association agrees with Mr. Obama on some points. It says that individuals and families who can afford coverage should be required to obtain it.

Hello, most already have it and pay for it.